I would say you can safely separate the players at this level into various player types, with the exception of a tiny percentage of excellent players who remain unpredictable.
But one of the most common things present across the player types divide is that of an inability to lay down either strong draws when they know they are beat and have no odds, and, more commonly, made hands that are far from the nuts. It is these 2 things for me at least, that make the variance and frustrations worth it over the long run at this level.
I have no idea when it actually markedly changes (ie 200nl, 400nl?) but at 100 any pair is good for even many of the regs to just call down with, or even raise. 2 pair is the nuts to many, and an overpair.....better than sex for the ubernits in particular. Whilst that is frustrating for a player like me who never likes to give up when I know someone is weak (and they still call my barrels down) it pays off handsomely in the long run.
I leave you with this hand. Villain is a 36/18 standard fish typical at this level.
$0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
Poker Tools by Stoxpoker - Hand Details
CO: $179.50 (179.5 bb)
Hero (BTN): $152.55 (152.6 bb)
SB: $200.50 (200.5 bb)
BB: $229 (229 bb)
UTG: $109.45 (109.5 bb)
MP: $100 (100 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with 9
A
UTG raises to $3.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $3.50, SB folds, BB calls $2.50
I am calling the utg raiser here because he is a total lagfish and I think he can give me plenty of value on the right flop. BB (villain) calls which is no surprise as he calls 40% from BB.
Flop: ($11) 5 4 9 (3 players)
BB bets $16, UTG folds, Hero calls $16
Big bet on flop smells of a set, 2 pair or flush. Flush is likely as these fish will call from blinds with any 2 suited always. He could even be doing it with something like J9, t9 to get rid of the draws. Like many slightly aggro fish, he has donkbet of 22%. Folding is out of the question because of the stack sizes and the implied odds. Smaller stacks would make it hard to continue, depending on reads.
Turn: ($43) K (2 players)
BB bets $15, Hero calls $15.
Straightforward here. He either has a flush or he doesn't. If he doesn't he is snap folding to a raise, but by simply calling we allow him to bluff a final shell on the river.
River: ($73) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $118.05 and is all-in, BB calls $118.05
Nothing changed here, he either had a flush or he didn't. My logic, as per the start of this post, was that he would never ever be capable of laying down the Qs, Js, maybe even the Ts, and all of which are entirely within his range. so an overbet shove was obvious for snap fold or snap call.
Results: $309.10 pot ($3 rake)
Final Board: 5
4 9 K 8
Hero showed 9 A (a flush, Ace high) and won $306.10 ($153.55 net)
BB mucked J 6 (a flush, King high) and lost (-$152.55 net)
Like I said, keep pushin at them, but in small pots. You will lose some to the stations, aggros and donks, but same guys will pay you off in the pots that really matter.
But one of the most common things present across the player types divide is that of an inability to lay down either strong draws when they know they are beat and have no odds, and, more commonly, made hands that are far from the nuts. It is these 2 things for me at least, that make the variance and frustrations worth it over the long run at this level.
I have no idea when it actually markedly changes (ie 200nl, 400nl?) but at 100 any pair is good for even many of the regs to just call down with, or even raise. 2 pair is the nuts to many, and an overpair.....better than sex for the ubernits in particular. Whilst that is frustrating for a player like me who never likes to give up when I know someone is weak (and they still call my barrels down) it pays off handsomely in the long run.
I leave you with this hand. Villain is a 36/18 standard fish typical at this level.
$0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
Poker Tools by Stoxpoker - Hand Details
CO: $179.50 (179.5 bb)
Hero (BTN): $152.55 (152.6 bb)
SB: $200.50 (200.5 bb)
BB: $229 (229 bb)
UTG: $109.45 (109.5 bb)
MP: $100 (100 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with 9
AUTG raises to $3.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $3.50, SB folds, BB calls $2.50
I am calling the utg raiser here because he is a total lagfish and I think he can give me plenty of value on the right flop. BB (villain) calls which is no surprise as he calls 40% from BB.
Flop: ($11) 5
4 9 (3 players)BB bets $16, UTG folds, Hero calls $16
Big bet on flop smells of a set, 2 pair or flush. Flush is likely as these fish will call from blinds with any 2 suited always. He could even be doing it with something like J9, t9 to get rid of the draws. Like many slightly aggro fish, he has donkbet of 22%. Folding is out of the question because of the stack sizes and the implied odds. Smaller stacks would make it hard to continue, depending on reads.
Turn: ($43) K
(2 players)BB bets $15, Hero calls $15.
Straightforward here. He either has a flush or he doesn't. If he doesn't he is snap folding to a raise, but by simply calling we allow him to bluff a final shell on the river.
River: ($73) 8
(2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $118.05 and is all-in, BB calls $118.05
Nothing changed here, he either had a flush or he didn't. My logic, as per the start of this post, was that he would never ever be capable of laying down the Qs, Js, maybe even the Ts, and all of which are entirely within his range. so an overbet shove was obvious for snap fold or snap call.
Results: $309.10 pot ($3 rake)
Final Board: 5
4 9 K 8Hero showed 9
A (a flush, Ace high) and won $306.10 ($153.55 net)BB mucked J
6 (a flush, King high) and lost (-$152.55 net)Like I said, keep pushin at them, but in small pots. You will lose some to the stations, aggros and donks, but same guys will pay you off in the pots that really matter.
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